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[14:06] <Vlad> Всем
привет
[14:06] <kotok333> привет
всем
[14:07] <kotok333> кто
из
Николаева
[14:07] <sonia> жщлаю
успшхов
[14:08] <Vlad> What about English
[14:08] <kotok333> dont veri gut
[14:08] <igor> gderabotaete
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[14:10] <Vlad> Togda lutchshe latinskimi po-russki
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[16:15] <Victor_Odessa> проверка
связи
[16:15] <Victor_Odessa> test
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[16:44] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Hello friends! from sunny Odessa
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[16:46] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> Єрія
[16:47] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Dear frinds! maybe some words abour
yourselves. I'm "newborn" Russian language coordinator of KIDLONK
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[16:48] <sumy_iatp> єрія
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[16:52] <Olenka_Lviv> Hello everybody!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:52] <Olenka_Lviv> Hello sunny Odessa from not-so-sunny Lviv!
[16:53] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Hye!
[16:53] <Olenka_Lviv> Is it so hot in Odessa?
[16:53] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Not so as usually
[16:54] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> Ternopil kids and teachers are going
to join in a moment.Hello to everybody!
[16:54] <Olenka_Lviv> Looking forward! Hello!
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[16:59] <Olena> Olena from Uzhgorod greets everybody
[16:59] <Vinnitsa_BelayaTK_alumna> test
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[16:59] <Olenka_Lviv> Hello to olena from Uchgorod from olena from lviv
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[17:01] <Vita_Ternopil> hallo
everybody!ternopil is online
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[17:01] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> hello to everybody. We are Natalia
melnichuk f and Evelina Malinenkova from Zhytomyr
[17:01] <Olenka_Lviv> Hye friends!!! Say something!
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[17:01] <Svetlana_ALexandrovna_teacher_S> test
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[17:02] <Anastasia-Lviv> Hello to everyone! Nice to meet you.
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[17:02]
<Иван_Кировоград>
Доброго дня !
[17:02] <MODERATOR_Olga> кхе-кхе
[17:03] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> Special greetings to the teachers from
Uzhgorod
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[17:03] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> тест
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[17:04] <AlMat> .match olga
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[17:04] <Uzhhorod_Kateryna> Uzhhorod also sends best greetings to
everybody!
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[17:05] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> A question to everybody: how do you
involve your students into the programme?
[17:05] <Ira_Olya_Lida_ternopil> ПриФт
вФм.Іра, Оля, Ліда.
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[17:05] <AlMat> и
Саша
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[17:05] <Zack> Hello from Krivoy Rog!!
[17:05] <ADVANTIS> здрасти.
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[17:05] <Vinnitsa_BelayaTK_alumna> Всем добрый
день...
[17:05] <Anastasia-Lviv> Давайте
с'лкуватись
укрgнською
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[17:06] <ADVANTIS> а по
Руусски
слабо
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[17:06] <Katya>
Привет ВСЕМ!
[17:06] <Vita_Ternopil> a po
english???
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[17:06] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> What do you have against English,
Anastasia from Lviv?
[17:06] <Ira_Olya_Lida_ternopil> Давайте .Ми &льки
за укрgнську.
[17:06] <Olena> Moderator,My students registered and wrote answers to 4
questions. what are our next step?
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[17:07] <Roman> Hello
[17:07] <ADVANTIS> Аза
Русский!
[17:07] <dima> привет
хочеш
поговорить
[17:07] <Olenka_Lviv> Hello
[17:07] <Vita_Ternopil> a tut robocha mova english
[17:07] <Ksenya_Donetsk> приветик
всем!!!!!
[17:07] <Ira_Olya_Lida_ternopil> Рома,
[17:07] <OLEG_donetsk> HI everybody!
[17:07] <MODERATOR_Olga>
Добрий день
вФм
учасникам!
Сьогоді ми
будемо
говорити
про Кід&нк. В
Фмна& ібралися
вчите& та учі
шФл Укрgни та
БілоруФ.
Можливо, до
нас заФтd Одд
де Пресно,
директор Кід&нку
(з НорвеФї) та
Дон Спенсер,
представник
IATP з
Вашингтону.
Дон читd
роФйською,
тому я попрошу
перейти на
цю мову, до
того ж &ти та
віте& з
БілоруФ
зрозуfють
нас краще :) А
для Одда я
прошу
когось з
аламнай -
ЛьФв? -
перекладати
основний &д
беФди.
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[17:07] <Anastasia-Lviv> можно
[17:07] <Vitaliy> Tkach you
[17:07] <JURIY-22> привет
Юры-22
[17:07] <Roman> Ну
отозвитесь
ко мне PlEAAAAAAAAAAAAASE
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[17:07] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager>
Господа!
Всем кто
хочет
серьезно
работать в
Кидлинке -
огромная
просьба
написать
тест мне на
kids2002@paco.net
[17:08] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> To Olena.The same with ours. We plannnned
to find pen-pals for them but failed.
[17:08] <MODERATOR_Olga> До
школяів - при
бажані
пос&лкуватися
fж собою
перейдить в
окрему
Фмнату KIDS.
ІнструкФї - у
тренеів та
представниФв
IATP. Давайте почекdмо,
коли &ти
роійдуться,
три хвилини.
[17:08] <dima> привет
из днепра
[17:08] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> я =-
новоиспеченій
модератор
русской версии
Кидлинка,
работаю в
проекте с 1992
года, внешкольник
[17:08] <ADVANTIS> ПРИВЕТ
из СУМ
[17:08] <Ksenya_Donetsk>
отіваемся
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[17:08] <dima> привет
[17:09] <Ira_Olya_Lida_ternopil> Рома ,
приФт тоі Фд
Іри О& та
Ліди з Тернополя.
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[17:09] <MaryK_Ternopil> Hi everybody! Nice to meet you.
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[17:09] <ADVANTIS> привет
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[17:09] <JURIY-22> Димон ты
где
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[17:09] <Vitalik> привет
всем
[17:09] <Sidun_Solomia_Lutsk> ПриФт
з Луцька
[17:09] <Sveta> Привет,
Мы вас всех
приветствуем
в програме Kidling.
[17:09] <Roman> Oleg
отозвись
[17:09] <Vitalik> как дела
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[17:09] <Vitaliy> Kizil privet
[17:09] <MODERATOR_Olga> Так, еще
раз и по
русски. Все
дети сейчас
переходят в
комнату KIDS. ок?
[17:09] <Legeza_Uzhhorod> .
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[17:09] <Anastasia-Lviv> dima where are you from
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[17:09] <Ira> Привет из
Днепра!
[17:09] <gulyash_Donetsk> hi!
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[17:09] <Evgenia> Привет
всем, я из
Днепропетровска
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[17:10] <MaryK_Ternopil> Hi Vitalik!
[17:10] <Zack> To Olena and Malinenkova: I'm a teacher at a lyceum in
Krivoy Rog. How old are your students? Are any still interested in Kidlink?
[17:10] <OLEG_donetsk> Рома я
тут!
[17:10] <MODERATOR_Olga> ДЕТИ - в комнfту
KIDS, если вы
хотете
общаться
между собой
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[17:10] <Vitalik> привет
Ира
[17:10] <Katya> Роман
привет!
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[17:10] <Vitaliy> Рома
Ткаченко
повернись
ко мне
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[17:10] <Alex> Helloooooooooo
[17:10] <Roman> Привет
Катя
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[17:10] <Evgenia> Дима
привет
[17:11] <MODERATOR_Olga> ДЕТИ
ПЕРЕХОДЯТ В
ОТЕЛЬНУЮ
КОМНАТУ :))
[17:11] <Alex> Hi Andrev
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[17:11] <Ira_Olya_Lida_ternopil> ПриФт.
Розкаіть
щось
Фкавеньке
[17:11] <MODERATOR_Olga>
ОТДЕЛЬНУЮ :)
[17:11] <MaryK_Ternopil> Hi Oleg_donetsk
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[17:11] <dima> привет
[17:11] <Roman> Катя ты
где??????
[17:11] <Ksenya_Donetsk> почему
нам не
пишите
[17:11] <Sidun_Solomia_Lutsk> ВФм
гарного дня.
З
заФнченням
роб.тижня!!!Гарних
ви&дних
[17:11] <Vitalik> привет
дима
[17:11] <MODERATOR_Olga> TO IATP STAFF:
пожалуйста,
помогите
детям
разобраться
с комнатами!!!
[17:11] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> To Zack. Our students are from ten to
fifteen. For the yongest we have done everything ourselves.
[17:11] <Timon> hello
[17:11] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> #kids
[17:11] <Evgenia> Олег
пока
[17:11] Nick change: Ira_Ternopil -> nadya_ternopil
[17:11] <Katya> Роман
росскажи
что нибуть
[17:12] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> #KIDS
[17:12] <Vita_Ternopil> one moment please
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[17:12] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> Olga,just a minute.
[17:12] Nick change: Mykolaiv_Viknyansky -> Mykolaiv_Nikolai
[17:12] <Zhytomyr_Irina> Hello to all English teachers in the chart!HOW
are you doing
[17:12] <MODERATOR_Olga>
Набрать /join #kids
[17:12] <Roman> Мне 18 лет
[17:12] <Vitalik> здорова
роман
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[17:12] <Alex> Привет
Андрей
[17:12] <Roman> Катя
сколько
тебе лет ?
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[17:12] <Vitaliy> Романа
зовут Ткач,
Катя!
[17:12] <Katya> 13
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[17:12] <OLEG_donetsk>
Марик,сколько
тебе лет.
[17:13] <Katya> 56
[17:13] <nadya_ternopil> приФт
уФм!!!
[17:13] <Zack> To Malinenkova. Do you have Internet at school? It is
nice to use the IATP center. But it makes it tough to continue work on
Kidlink without access at school. It was a great way to introduce the
Internet to my 10th formers, though.
[17:13] <Roman> Где ты
жиЦшь ?
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[17:13] <MODERATOR_Olga> VSEM SOTRUDNIKAM IATP - Please help me :)
Детей - в
комнату KIDS!!! :))
[17:13] <Vitaliy> А Роме 9999999999
лет
[17:13] <Vitalik> ето было
смешно катя
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[17:13] <Sveta> привет
Вита из
Тернопаля
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> Slide - один
из самых
простых
приемов
игры на
гитаре.
Делается
таким
образом:
зажав струну,
указаную
первой до
знака "/" или
"\" в табулатуре,
проводите
пальцем по
струне до
лада, указанного
после знака.
[17:13] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Dear teachers! Any activities from you
.....???
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> И
балдеете от
звука.
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> В
табулатуре
это
выглядит
так;
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> + +
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> e:---------|
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> B:-----6\5-|
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> G:---------|
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> D:-5/7-----|
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> A:---------|
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> E:---------|
[17:13] <Roman> Олег
дурак
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk>
Сначала
делаете
слайд с
пятого лада
до седьмого
на 4-й струне
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> Потом с
шестого
лада до
пятого на
второй
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> Важно
сильно
прижимать
струну к
грифу иначе
получите
дребезжание.
Приведенная
табулатура
звучит так:
[17:13] <_Yulia_Lutsk> Hi! Would you tell me
[17:13] <gulyash_Donetsk>
Приветик
Веталик! Я
гуляш!
Повернись сюда
Вета!
[17:14] <Artyom_Andreychenko_Harkiv>
привет юрий-22
[17:14] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> Ternopil has already moved:)
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[17:14] <Rivne_Sch_28> I`m OK,thank you
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[17:14] <Vitaliy> Беёза
что за знаки
блин
[17:14] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> To Zack. We do have it but virtually for
there's nobody to pay for it.
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[17:15] <MODERATOR_Olga> Ну вот. А
теерь можно
и
поговорить.
Вы сейчас
сказать не
можете не
слова, и вам
придется
послушать,
что я скажу.
Все дети
уходят в
комнату KIDS. А
учителя
будут
обсуждать
свои вопросы.
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[17:16] <AlMat> :)
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[17:17] <MODERATOR_Olga> Я еще
раз повторю -
язык чата
русский, так
как у нас
присутствуют
гости из
Вашингтона
и Беларуси.
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[17:17] <MODERATOR_Olga> Я очень
прошу
реагировать
на мои
релики, иначе
продуктивного
разговора
не получится.
ок?
[17:17] <MODERATOR_Olga> Итак,
наш первый
вопрос для
обсуждения -
Ваши
впечатления
от сайта
Кидлинк.
Пожалуйста,
не
стесняйтесь
говорить
сейчас и по теме.
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<Светлана_Кировоград>
На мой
взгляд - сама
идея имеет
много
позитивного.
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[17:18] <Olena> Moderator-My students are 13 and they are interested in
Kidlink and in communicating with foreigners.In what way can they e-mail to
the children they have chosen in the list?
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[17:18] <Zack> How did you manage Kidlink, then? It could be a great
program if my students could get on the net at home and at school. They would
like Pen pals. Some found them with kidlink. But overall, I think next time I
will simply find them pen pals. Kidlink has potential but not when teachers
and students have such limited internet access. Do you teach English in
Zhytomer?
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[17:19] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Я
проголосовала
за Кидлинк
очень давно
и ни раз в нем
не
разочаровалась.
проблеммы как
всегда - в нас -
далеко не
высегда
есть доступ
позволяющий
всерьез
заниматься
проектами
[17:19] <Uzhhorod_Kateryna> Очень
интересный
сайт: много
информации
со всего
мира
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[17:19] <Zhytomyr_Irina> To Alla Kharkov What is your part in this
project Are you a teacher
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[17:19] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> We support Olena in her question. The
same with our students.
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[17:20] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> Оля,
се5йчас не я
буду
говорить.С
моего
компьютера
будет
говорить
учительница,так
как все
остальные
заняты
детьми.Так
что прошу не
обращать
вни мания на
подпись.Мысли
будут ее.ОК?
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[17:20] <Rivne_Sch_28> Очень
интересный
и
конструктивный
сайт: много
интересной
и полезной
информации
со всего мира
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[17:20] <MODERATOR_Olga> Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya- OK!
[17:20] <MODERATOR_Olga> Кто-то
может
рассказать,
как писать письма
другим
детям, в
ответ на
вопрос
Олены?
Пожалуйста!
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[17:21] <Alla_Kharkov> Привет
всем!!!Кидлинк-
интересно и
весело!!
[17:21] <Kharkov> Это сайт
очень
полезен для
детей со всего
мира.
[17:21] <Zhytomyr_Malinenkova> To Zach. Yes, we teach English in
Humanitarian Gymnasium No.23
[17:21] <Legeza_Uzhhorod>
Алекс!Ти
зФдки?СФльки
тоі роФв?
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[17:21] <MODERATOR_Olga> Как он помогает
ВАМ,
учителям?
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[17:22] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager>
Писать
просто -
лучше всего
подписаться
на листы
рассылки -
там по 10-12
писем в день - люой
найдет
друга по
душе. Мои
дети потом
годами
переписываются
сами
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[17:22] <Artyom_Andreychenko_Harkiv> Evgenia ты
жыва
[17:22] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya>
замечательный
сайт для
детей. хорошая
возможность
проявить
себя.
Хотелось бы
иметь это
все в школе
[17:22] <Rivne_Sch13> Мы
очень рады
вас
приветствовать!Мы
новички !have you something
interesting for us?
[17:22] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager>
Несмотря на
проблемы
доступа
нужно пробовать
и
поддерживать
детей в их
активности
и интересе к
детям
других
стран.
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<Светлана_Кировоград>
Хотелось бы
иметь больше
информации
на русском
для учителей.
[17:23] <Lyuba_Lviv> Hi for everybody. I like this idea, but I haven't
taken part in it yet. So I'm waiting for some peices of advice
[17:23] <Kharkov> С точки
зрения
учеников,
это сайт
помогае
реёнку
развиваться
в любой
сфере.
[17:23] <MODERATOR_Olga> Rivne_Sch13 - мы
говорим о
том, какие
впечатления
от сайта
Кидлинк
[17:23] <Carkisyan> Привет
девченки.
Кто хочет
познакомится
с клевым
парнем 18 лет
пишите
[17:23] <Mykolaiv_VOVAN> Привет
всем!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:23] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> да,
дети очень
довольны
этой программой.
[17:24] <Kharkov_Jek_Altukhov> О ём
хоть и#т речь
[17:25] <Kharkov> Ну, на
певый
взгляд
конечно не
очень (я не люблю
врать). Но
если
прогуляться
по сайту, то
можно найти
в ём что-то
свЦ.
[17:25] <Maya_Donetsk> Очень
много
интересной
информации
для рабо& на
уроках но
мало
времени для
освоения
програмf
[17:25] <MODERATOR_Olga> Еще раз
(простите за
настойчивость)
: все
школьники в
данный
момент
общаться в
отдельной
комнате! (KIDS)
[17:25] <_Yulia_Lutsk> Hello I want to speak with cool boy
[17:25] <Alla_Kharkov> I wish all of you to spend a happy time in this
chat & in Kidlink!!!
[17:25] <Rivne_Sch13>
Впечатления
не
плохие.Наверное
, это очень
интересно!!!
[17:25] <Trainer_Chernigov>
Расскажите
пожалуйста,
как учитель английского
может
использовать
ресурсы данного
сайта?
[17:26] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Если
есть
желающие
помочь -
милости
просим.
Переводы
делаются,
как
выяснилось,
волонтерами
- гл.обр.
Молдавия,
Таджикистан
и др. Сами
понимаете ,
адекватно
адаптировать
сложно... Очень
нужны
помощники -
несмотря на
то, что вы сами
вполне
обходитесь
английской
версией
[17:26] <Olenka_Lviv> Мне
сайт
понравился
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[17:26] <Leheza_Uzhhorod> .]
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[17:26] <Mykolaiv_VOVAN> Кто-то
хочет со
мной поговорить????????
[17:27] <Maya_Donetsk>
отелось і
иметь сайт
на русском
яіке так как
уровень
знаний
детей
требует
постоянной
помощи со
стороі
учителей
[17:27] <OdeP> hello, hope I am not too late here. Was confused by the
KIEV time vs. GMT! Sorry
[17:27] <MODERATOR_Olga> Что, по
Вашему
мнению,
можно было
бы на нем (на
сайте)
изменить/улучшить?
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[17:27] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> мы
обговариваем
с моими
учениками возможности,которые
они могут использовать
на этом
сайте
[17:27] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager>
Учителю
англ языка
мне кажется
можно
просто жить
в Кидлинке -
только бы
начальство
не
возражало
[17:27] <OdeP> I am Odd de Presno from Kidlink
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[17:27] <MODERATOR_Olga> Hi Odd! We are having a multi-language
discussion here, so some of the participants are willing to translate for
you?
[17:27]
<Светлана_Кировоград>
Поддерживаю
Донецк! Да и
учителям
тоже не
всегда
просто.
[17:28] <Olenka_Lviv> Hello Odd!!! Nice to meet you!
[17:28] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dear Alumni - who would like to help Odd with
translations?
[17:28] <Rivne_Sch13> Есть
професиональное
желание
перенимать
полезный
опыт других
коллег
[17:28] <IvanoFrankivsk_Maria_Ulashkevyc> Hi ,everybody!Isnt that great
to open each other their hearts through Kidlink!!!Ilove it.
[17:28] <Kharkov_Marina> Hello Odd We are glad to see you
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[17:28] <OdeP> would be great. Russian or Ukrainian is not languages
that I know. :-)
[17:28] <Timonishche> Hi everybody
[17:28] <MODERATOR_Olga>
Повторяю
вопрос: Что,
по Вашему
мнению,
можно было
бы на нем (на
сайте)
изменить/улучшить?
[17:28] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> да,
просто, при
условии, что
в школе есть
компютеры и
доступ к
Интернет
[17:29] <Olenka_Lviv> I am a volunteer from Lviv IATP center - will be
glad to help with the translation
[17:29] <sumy_iatp> Olga, if you want, I could translate the
disscussion - Sergiy RSEP
[17:29] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> I think it is the way for you, Odd, to
start with both - R & U
[17:29] <OdeP> Thank you, Olenka.
[17:29] <MODERATOR_Olga> Olenka_Lviv - THANKS! So please keep the
contact with Odd, Odd - is that Ok ?
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[17:29] <Olenka_Lviv> It`s a pleasure
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[17:29] <Timonishche>
поддержку
русского
добавить :)
[17:29] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> hi Odd! Nice to talk to you in our
chat.
[17:29] <OdeP> Yes, indeed, it is OK.
[17:29] <Rivne_Sch13> for OdeP What did you mean?
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[17:30] <MODERATOR_Olga> sumy_iatp - thank you, Sergiy ! Olenka will do
that
[17:30] <Svetlana_ALexandrovna_teacher_S> На
уроках англ.
языка мы
используем
проект "Где
я живу".
Работаем по
теме "10 хороших
причин ,
чтобы
гордиться
Украиной"
[17:30] <sumy_iatp> OK!
[17:30] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> <OdeP> have you yet had the
practical experience of Kid Link
[17:30] <Olenka_Lviv> I`m a student of Applied Linguistics Department
:-)
[17:30] <MODERATOR_Olga> Так вот,
мы
возвращаемся
к теме сайта Кидлинк.
По вашему
мнению, что
можно в нем было
бы изменить?
[17:30] <Lidiya_Kutsevych_Lutsk> Hello,Odd.Nice to meet you.My students
are interested in kidlink very much
[17:31] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> The kidlink program is a good
resource for students
[17:31] <Don> Odd, right now we are discussing the question about what
may be improved on the Kidlink website.
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[17:31] <Svetlana_ALexandrovna_teacher_S> Но у
нас нет
выхода в
и-нет,
поэтому
работаем на
бумаге.
[17:31] <Kharkov_Marina> Sorry I don't speak English good but I will
try... Odd how do you use kidlink in education?
[17:31] <OdeP> Hi Don. Are you folks waiting for me to say something
now? ;-)
[17:31] <Olenka_Lviv> Moderator asks about the impression that the site
kidlink made on people
[17:32] <Rivne_Sch13> for Svetlana Alexandrovna Что
єто за прДкт
"Где я живу"
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[17:32] <Olenka_Lviv> And about the changes to be done
[17:32] <Uzhhorod_Kateryna> Hi,Odd! I have looked through your web page
and would like to say you are great!
[17:32] <OdeP> The impression that the site Kidlink made on people?
[17:32] <Timonishche> сайт
сильно
яркий, много
картинок,
поэтому на
компьютерах
со слабым
каналом
долго грузится
[17:32] <Don> Odd, no, at this point we are trying to be good listeners
to their feedback on this question. Olga will moderate and Olenka will
translate for you.
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[17:32] <OdeP> First, since the very start, people have been very
[17:32] <Olena> Raisa,спасибо
за ответ на
мой
вопрос.Следовательно,
дети
находят
друзей и
общаются сами
. А какие виды
деятельности
Вы
порекомендуете
в первую
очередь для
работы
сообщаты
[17:33] <Maya_Donetsk> Hi, Odd! Itas a pleasure to deal with your site
but in our opinion there is quite a lot of information in a foreign language
for the pupils to understand. It turns out to be rather complex for them to
work alone.
[17:33] <OdeP> caught by the CONTENTS of what children say when
[17:33] <Leheza_Uzhhorod> Катя!
ПриФт! Давай
переписуватися
[17:33] <Olenka_Lviv> we`re looking forward to hearing sth from you,
Odd
[17:33] <OdeP> answering the four questions. They realize
[17:33] <OdeP> that this is important, and has to do with our
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[17:33] <OdeP> future. Some people (teachers, parents, others) just
[17:33] <OdeP> cannot get away from the four questions. They go back
there,
[17:34] <OdeP> read them, think, use it in their classes,
presentations, etc.
[17:34] <Alla_Kharkov> Hello, Odd!! I'll try to help you with
translation.All teachers like Kid Link. They lear their students to work in
Kid Link.
[17:34] <OdeP> These questions are the heart of Kidlink. In other
words,
[17:34] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> that's great, I think that the
students can communicate through the KIdlink program
[17:34] <Maya_Donetsk> сайт
дает
возможность
использовать
виды
творческой
деятельности
для детей
[17:34] <OdeP> it did not start as a teacher network, but as a vehicle
to support kids.
[17:35] <OdeP> Personally, I have logged into the response approval system
daily to approve the responses of your
[17:35] <OdeP> students. It has given me much pleasure, and I have also
noted differences between what
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[17:35] <OdeP> students of various countries think. The other day, we
had a problem of approving one student
[17:35] <OdeP> who was very aggressive in his views regarding the US
and war.
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[17:36] <Svetlana_ALexandrovna_teacher_S> kidlink
очень
нравиться
детям.For Rivne module 2: where do I live? We
have find it in the program contents abstract from "Who am I"
[17:36] <OdeP> We are not preventing students to think the way they
want
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[17:36] <Alla_Kharkov> Students are very interested in working in KId
Link.We like this.
[17:36] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> This (aggresive letter) starts great
discussin I think
[17:36] <OdeP> but we do want them to seek discussion with others, and
therefore we ask them not to be so
[17:36] <OdeP> aggressive that a dialog is impossible.
[17:37] <OdeP> One moderator explained that some students are very
aggressive, but I must say that
[17:37] <Rivne_Sch13> for OdeP Are you American?
[17:37] <OdeP> it is something that I have discovered very rarely about
your students! They are simply great!!!
[17:37] <Timonishche> сложен
процесс
получения
регистрационного
ключа. Мой
друг пока
так и не
получил,
хотя
зарегистрировался
с месяц
томуу
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[17:37] <OdeP> Maya talked about the complexitiy of students to work in
another language.
[17:37] <Lidiya_Kutsevych_Lutsk> There should be different variants of
communication for different students. For mine it's important to improve
their language skills.
[17:37] <OdeP> By standing togehter and getting more translated, we can
deal with this. My dream is to have
[17:38] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> OdeP what is your opinion of the war
in Irak???????????????????????
[17:38] <OdeP> our kids portal at
www.kidlink.org/english/general/k/index.html translated into your
[17:38] <OdeP> languages, and also expanded !!!
[17:38] <Don> For Rivne_School13- Odd is from Norway, not the US
[17:38] <MODERATOR_Olga> Timonishche - он
все
правильно
сделал, я
имею в виду
процесс
регистрации?
А может у
него не
работает
почтовый
ящик? Часто
такие
сообщения
приходят - и
невозможно
зарегитрировать
ответ.
[17:38] <Maya_Donetsk> The problem is that we canat finish any of the
projects as no organization on our country will provide children with
financial support
[17:38] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Я
стараюсь
своих детей
учить
работать в
кидлинке -
кка учить
плавать -
чтобы не боялись
глубины и
умели
ринимать
решения ну и
конечно
звать на
помощь
когда это
нужнолт
[17:39] <Olena> OdeP-What are our next step after registration and
answering 4 question?We have done it already and my students like Kidlink
very much .We all enjoy reading the letters from the kids.
[17:39] <Olenka_Lviv> its`a good idea!
[17:39] <Virus> Hello, Timonche!!!!!:]
[17:39] <MODERATOR_Olga> Schetinina_teacher_Sumy - let us please omit
the Iraq topic today!
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[17:39] <OdeP> I did not understand Svetlana's comment. Please repeat.
Remember, Norwegian is MY first languagel.
[17:39] <Timonishche> первое
письмо с
благодарностью
пришло :)
[17:39] <Rivne_Sch13> for Don Thank
you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:39] <OdeP> Odd de Presno is born in Norway, in a small town of
about 40,000 people called Arendal.
[17:40] <Uzhhorod_Kateryna> Odd, are your grandchildren active
participants of kidlink?
[17:40] <OdeP> It is 3,5 hour by car from Oslo. I live in a small
fiord, about 6 metres from the sea.
[17:40] <OdeP> My ancestors come from Spain.
[17:40] <OdeP> :-)
[17:40] <Olenka_Lviv> Svetlana said that children like kidlink very
much
[17:40] <Timonishche> меня
первое
впечатление
что сайт ориентирован
на детей лет
до 12 а надо
сделать что-нибудь
и для
стандартного
тинейджера
[17:40] <Virus>
Здорово,грю
[17:41] <OdeP> Lidiya: Yes, there sh9ould be different variants of
communication for different students.
[17:41] <OdeP> We need to learn more about it. We do have the freedom -
together - to make it happen.
[17:41] <MODERATOR_Olga> Ок,
давайте
поговорим о
проектах
Кидлинка -
кто-то так
уже
участвовал?
[17:41] <Rivne_Sch13> for OdeP Are you teacher?
[17:41] <Alla_Kharkov> We've found a lot of new friends from all over
the World. KIdlink halped us!!!
[17:41] <MODERATOR_Olga> Let us talk about Kidlink projects - have you
started participation in them?
[17:41] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager>
Господа! Кто
готов
работать в
проектах -
смотрите
сразу
страничку
проектов.
Например,
если будут
желающие -
могу
провести по
аналогии
игру
"Столицы
мира"
(фактически
перевод из
Кидлинка "Country
capitals"
[17:41] <OdeP> Remember, Kidlink is a user-owned network of people. It
is and becomes what we make it become.
[17:42] <OdeP> Schetinia: the war in Irak? I don't care about what
people thinks what, and I do not pretend to know the
[17:42] <OdeP> solution of things that happenl. But I do know one
thing:
[17:42] <Timonishche> to MODERATOR_OLGA а тут
лучше может
писать на
английском?
все русский
понимают?
[17:42] <OdeP> NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ANY CHILD!
[17:43] <Zack> To Olga, my class of 10th formers simply answered the
four questions and began corresponding with other students. Again, it is
difficult without more access. However IATP is great.
[17:43] <Svetlana_ALexandrovna_teacher_S> we have find several
questions of Who am I ?It is Module 2 Where do I live?I asked my students to
answer this questions and name the work Ten Good reasons to be proud
[17:43] <OdeP> So, solutions of today's problems must be sought finding
other ways of doing this.
[17:43] <Lyuba_Lviv> I understand that it's very good to support our
students, but what about suppoting teachers? Have you got this proect
[17:43] <OdeP> Kidlink is impartial to politics, so this is my very
personal view!!
[17:43] <Maya_Donetsk> Наши
дети очень
хотят
участвовать
в проектах
но мы не
можем
присоединиться
к ним
[17:43] <MODERATOR_Olga> Timonishche - если
честно, я
затрудняюсь
ответиь на
этот вопрос.
Сейчас
просим у
участников.
[17:44] <Rivne_Sch13> for raisa Есть
желающие на
игру
"Столици
мира"
[17:44] <OdeP> KaterynaL: I am sorry, but my grandshildren are not
active participants yet. Maybe tomorrow. :-)
[17:44] <MODERATOR_Olga> TO ALL: всем
ли удобно
говорить по
английски??
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[17:44] <MODERATOR_Olga> We can switch to English if everybody is OK.
Как вы
насчет
английского?
[17:44] <Svetlana_ALexandrovna_teacher_S> of Ukraine .but we have no
Internet in school so we make placards, projects others.
[17:44] <Maya_Donetsk> Quite normal
[17:44] <Ternopil_IATPRep_Mariya> да,
английский-удобно
[17:44] <OdeP> I am not a teacher, Rivne. I started as a business man
in 1967, became a writer, and started in the early 1980ies
[17:45] <OdeP> to hang out on the networks of that time. Actually, I
had a free account on KGB's private network (I was not
[17:45] <OdeP> symphatetic, just testing, writing), and had
[17:45] <Uzhhorod_Kateryna> Because I am also a grandma of a 5year old
granddaughter. She likes to paint and there are very nice pictures
[17:45] <IvanoFrankivsk_Maria_Ulashkevyc> Hi,Odep!WAs it your idea to
organise Kidlink?
[17:45] <OdeP> a wonderful and long discussion with someone in Armenia.
[17:45] <Kharkov_Marina> About kidlink. We see many interesting projects.
maybe you tell us about result? Do you have interesting finishing of some
kidlink project?
[17:46] <ccc> а будет
ли кидлинк
на русском?
[17:46] <Olenka_Lviv> What do you write, Odd?
[17:46] <Rivne_Sch13> Не
очень
[17:46] <MODERATOR_Olga> Is there anyone who can share experience of a
completed Kidlink project?
[17:46] <Alla_Kharkov> Your life is very interesting & exiting,Odd.
[17:46] <OdeP> Lyuba: support of teachers is important. There's an
immense amount of (not translated) support material.
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[17:47] <MODERATOR_Olga> ccc - ДА! мы
про это
поговорим
сегодня.
[17:47] <sumy_iatp> Odd, would you told us how did the idea of Kidlink
appear?
[17:47] <OdeP> One day, I hope to have it translated into Russian, and
expanded by
[17:47] <OdeP> your experiences, and your links to good non-Kidlink
contents resources, etc.
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[17:48] <OdeP> Yes, it was my idea to start Kidlink, but I must confess
that I was HEAVILY provoked by my wife. She
[17:48] <OdeP> is in charge of Kidlink's Kidart today.
[17:48] <Alla_Kharkov> All my friends think that KIDLINK is an
interesting thing.
[17:48] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> I can about results
[17:48] <MODERATOR_Olga> The work on translation has already started,
and new volunteers are welcome to make their contributions.
[17:48] <OdeP> As you have so many artistic students, you must work
with her. See www.kidlink.org/KIDART
[17:49] <MODERATOR_Olga> Raisa_Odesa_Teenager - please tell us!
[17:49] <OdeP> Marina asks for results. 1) Look at the awards we've
got. 2) look at http://www.kidlink.org/history/research.html to
[17:50] <OdeP> hear what reashers say, 3) listen to what the students
say, 4) listen to those who were
[17:50] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> ex-Kids - Kidlinkers - are now 20-25 y
old, the influence of particapating in Kidlink is great
[17:50] <ccc> для
Марины Где
проходит
видеоконференция
"Школа моей
мечты"
[17:50] <OdeP> students in Kidlink 13 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years
ago, and
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[17:50] <OdeP> hear what they say it meant to them. We have several who
are still with us. ;-)
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[17:50] <Zack> Oddp, I'm a teacher in central Ukraine. My students
loved kidlink. Do you have suggestions for making it easier to use with
limited access? For ex. answering questions, then cutting and pasting them
onto the site.
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[17:51] <OdeP> sumy_iatp: The idea of Kidlink appeared when my wife was
organizing an international
[17:51] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> The most great was the project-role game
@Island@ - from January up to June 1994
[17:51] <Virus> <MODERATOR_Olga> Hi:)
[17:51] <OdeP> children's cultural festival in our home town, Arendal
in Norway. At midnight,
[17:51] <OdeP> she turned to me in the bed and asked: "Odd, what
are you going to do to help me next spring?"
[17:52] <OdeP> I promised to set up an electronic exchange between
[17:52] <OdeP> our daughter and the grandchildren of someone I knew in
Colorado, USA.
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[17:52] <sumy_iatp> Odd, do you have examples of successful exchange
programs between children from different countries as an output of Kidlink?
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[17:53] <OdeP> Half a year later, the cultural event was a great
success, which in turn led to Kidlink.
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[17:53] <OdeP> So, Kidlink just happened because there was a hidden,
important need.
[17:53] <OdeP> Ah, about Ukrainian language Kidlink, did you know that
the work has started?
[17:54] <Lidiya_Kutsevych_Lutsk> There is a very interesting experience
of internet projects for kids in "Iearn" network.Do you know about
it?
[17:54] <OdeP> See http://www.kidlink.org/ukrainian/general/dirinfo.html
:-) Surprise! Surprise!
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[17:54] <Virus> HI ALL!!!!
[17:54] <Kharkov_Marina> для ссс.
Конференция
"Школа...!
проходит в
центрах iatp. Все
вопросы по
адресу sc55@ukr.net
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[17:55] <Olenka_lviv> Hye again!
[17:56] <OdeP> Zack: you will find hints aobut this at
www.kidlink.org/kie/nls/english/resources/mgmt.html
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[17:56] <IvanoFrankivsk_Maria_Ulashkevyc> Odep,what else can we get
throuth Kidlink, I mean that children ,who need our help
[17:56] <OdeP> Sumy: examples of successful exchange programs as an
output of Kidlink? Well, first,
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[17:57] <OdeP> the most important thing is not
"programs"" but exchanges between individuals.
[17:57] <Lyuba_Lviv> to the ex-kids - What is the most useful advice
for newborner pupils to start to use kidlink
[17:57] <OdeP> Today, Robbert in HOlland is going to the US to meet his
love. I was in Chicago last year, and
[17:57] <Maya_Donetsk> SOS!!! How to applz the program to our system
education
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[17:57] <OdeP> this boy from South Africa was there. The parents of
some US child took his
[17:58] <OdeP> kids to a central European country to meet their
friends. I can go on. On the personal level, this is
[17:58] <OdeP> where the impact is important.
[17:58] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Odd, I think here is very important
projects as an example of using Internet for work and learning but no games
[17:59] <OdeP> Lidiya: sorry, I don't know of this. There are so many
projects popping up all the time. The special thing
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[17:59] <OdeP> with Kidlink is that we try to be radically
student-centered. As you know, there's this thin line between
[17:59] <MODERATOR_Olga> Maya_Donetsk - I think you can use the lessons
and projects to make your lessons more stimulating
[17:59] <Raisa_Odesa_Teenager> Advise from me- to look at Kidlink as
the way for each person to build itself
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[17:59] <Maya_Donetsk> Sorry....it's time to leave!BYe!
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[18:00] <OdeP> what they like, and someone who does it because they
want to help the kids grow up. On what side
[18:00] <OdeP> of the line do you stand? ;-)
[18:00] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> How can I find friends with kidlink?
[18:00] <sumy_iatp> Thank you, Odd! It's really great, when a person
meet another person from other country and they understand that they are the
same. PEOPLE.
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with "get through Kidlink"? Like money? ;-)
[18:01] <Kharkov_Marina> Lidiya! I know iearn. we work in their
projects. It's very interesting. Now we want to know more about kidlink
[18:01] <OdeP> Luyba: you ask about the best advice to give to whom?
teachers? students?
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[18:02] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus - get registered at the
online conferences and just write to other kids, or make your profile
outstanding so that other kids notice you
[18:02] <OdeP> The answers are different. You know, in many countries
kids have computers at home, so today Kidlink get more
[18:02] <OdeP> individual kids signing up every day than through
classes. Have been like this for some time.
[18:02] <Virus> Hi !!!!
[18:02] <Lyuba_Lviv> I mean the advice that children feel freely
[18:03] <OdeP> As for teachers, I think it would be important to study
the contents of the teacher's portal, and I feel
[18:03] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> There are nobody on chat in kidlink.
Why?
[18:03] <OdeP> that the page called "the next step" to be
important.
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[18:03] <OdeP> The bottom line, however, is that it boils down to all
these small practical hints. For this
[18:03] <IvanoFrankivsk_Maria_Ulashkevyc> It is just communications.
[18:03] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus - there are so many kids!
write /join #kids here and you'll get there
[18:03] <OdeP> reason, we are working hard to open a Russian language
forum for teachers, so that
[18:03] <Olena> It would be better if in the list of all the
participants of kidlink their e-mails were written
[18:03] <OdeP> you people can start contribute your experiences!!
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[18:04] <OdeP> Each time a line is sent out in a chat room like here,
it may well be lost for those coming after us.
[18:04] <Uzhhorod_Kateryna> Odd, is the Kidlink your main occupation or
a hobby?
[18:04] <OdeP> However, when an experience report is posted in a forum
- which also has a search engine - someone can learn
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[18:04] <OdeP> from your experiences in 5 years time. This is a matter
of
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[18:04] <OdeP> building a joint experience bank. Very important.
[18:05] <Virus> Am I there?
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[18:05] <MODERATOR_Olga> Virus - how old are you?
[18:05] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> What can I do on kidlink if I'm not fond
of paintind and literature? Are there some little programmers? /loin
#programmers? ^)
[18:06] <OdeP> Dmitry: chat is a difficult thing. First, we have over
time few good pedagogical applications to show. Seems
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[18:06] <OdeP> it just takes too much preparation work for teachers.
Besides, traffic depends on when you are there.
[18:06] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus :) I thought you are
talking about this chat! i don't think there are programmers.
[18:06] <OdeP> The most active chatters live in the US, I believe, and
they're not home from school yet. Right, Don?
[18:07] <OdeP> Also, Kidlink's chat is not only one thing, but several.
It is not a free chat like the "world wild IRC," but
[18:07] <OdeP> there are constraints.
[18:07] <OdeP> The core of the matter is to allow participating
children to communicate with each other in any way thay
[18:07] <Don> It is only 11 am on the east coast, so yeah, kids are
still in school today.
[18:07] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> I want to know what can I do with the
help of Kidlink! Are there 15 years old kids?
[18:08] <OdeP> find practical, if it be cell phones. SMS, chat,
listserv mail, private mail. I don't care. Contents of the
[18:08] <Virus> I am 16 years old.And you?
[18:08] <OdeP> discussion is what matters.
[18:08] <MODERATOR_Olga> Virus - more :). you should join the KIDS
chatroom, I guess!
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also still write articles.
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[18:09] <Olenka_lviv> Odd, what are your articles mainly about?
[18:09] <sumy_iatp> Where could we find your articles, Odd?
[18:09] <Rivne_Sch13> Hi Virus! I am 16 years old too!
[18:09] <OdeP> Dmitry: if your interested in programming, go to
http://www.kidlink.org/english/general/vol/vol.html and sign up as
[18:09] <OdeP> a volunteer. ;-)
[18:09] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> Alla_Kharkov, e-mail?
[18:09] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus - you see, found someone,
Alla for example. try to think what you can do together on Kidlink - a
project, a topic?
[18:09] <MODERATOR_Olga> В этом
месяце мы
работали
над созданием
русскоязычной
версии
сайта и
списков рассылки,
для того,
чтобы дети
из стран
бывшего СНГ
общались между
собой на
более
привычном
языке. Это также
даст
возможность
детям, не
владеющим английским
языком,
общаться с
друзьями.
Кто-то из вас
пользовался
русскими
страничками?
[18:10] <OdeP> Dmitry: the general upper age level in Kidlink is 17,
unless you're a student at school (through secondary school).
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[18:10] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> MODERATOR_Olga
пока
замечена
была только
главная
страница на
расейском
[18:11] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> OdeP ерфтл
нщг
[18:11] <OdeP> Olenka: most my articles today are about education. They
used to be about computers, software, communication,
[18:11] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> OdeP thank you
[18:11] <Lyuba_Lviv> OdeP - Your next step will be to write a book,
won't it?
[18:11] <OdeP> the internet. Remember, I came in from the ICT side.
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[18:11] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus - там
есць і &нк на
першай
старонцы
[18:12] <Olenka_lviv> Odd, that`s interesting - where can i find your
articles?
[18:12] <Rivne_Sch13> Virus!Were are you?
[18:12] <OdeP> Sumy: My articles, start at
http://home.eunet.no/~presno/articles.html
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[18:12] <Don> Odd, Dmirtry from Belarus said that so far only the main
page has been in Russian. I think that the main page plus the entire Who Am I
section information pages have been translated into Russian, right?
[18:12] <OdeP> I'm afraid most of it is in Norwegian, so you will not
get much out of my online collection.
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[18:13] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> MODERATOR_Olga, я
бачив давай
по-расейскому,
бо я в школе
уроки
украинского
прогуливал :)
[18:13] <OdeP> However, here's a paper you might find interesting:
www.kidlink.org/kie/pres/bridge.html
[18:13] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus я из
Минска
родом.
[18:13] <Olenka_lviv> thanks? Odd :-)
[18:14] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> Don, right
[18:14] <Kharkov_Marina> Dmitry Мы
работали
вместе в
программе iearn?
[18:14] <OdeP> Lyuba: No more books for me. As you'll see on my
website, I've written several. Do not have the time.
[18:14] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> DMITRY_HOMEL_BELARUS
ТЕБЕ
НРАВИТСЯ
РАБОТАТЬ С
КИДЛИНК??????????????????????????????7
[18:14] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> Kharkov_Marina,
вряд ли но
давай если
хочешь :)
[18:15] <OdeP> Ah, there is so much typing here, so I forgot to give
you this: http://home.eunet.no/~presno/bok/ :=) Enjoy!
[18:15] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> MODERATOR_Olga,
ур-ра свои :)
[18:15] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus :)
[18:15] <Kharkov_Marina>
Дмитрий, я
ошиблась, а
работали ли
в kidlink?
[18:15] <Olena> Kidlink inspire and involve children in studying
foreign languages. That's why I prefer to work with my studehts in English
version
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[18:15] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> Schetinina_teacher_Sumy,
пока еще не
совсем
разобрался,
но искать
друзей по
всему миру
интересно.
Вот только
ярко вЦ
ошень...
[18:15] <MODERATOR_Olga> Для
того, чтобы
эта часть
сайта развивалась
и дальше,
надо
продолжать
переводить
странички.
Если есть
желающие -
пишите нам о
своем
желании и
помогайте
этому ресурсу
развиваться.
[18:15] <OdeP> Don: Yes, there are nine pages of the general
introduction translated into russian, see
[18:16] <MODERATOR_Olga> Есть
желающие
переводить?
Волонтеры, вы
тут??
[18:16] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> Kharkov_Marina, с
вами нет
[18:16] <OdeP> http://www.kidlink.org/russian/general/dirinfo.html ,
and also the full amount of pages in the
[18:16] <Olenka_lviv> Волонтеры
тут!
[18:16] <OdeP> first Who-am-I? module:
http://www.kidlink.org/kie/nls/russian/response/dirinfo.html . I hope that
[18:17] <OdeP> all these quicly typed web addresses are correctly. They
are taken from the top of my head. ;-)
[18:17] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> MODERATOR_Olga,
перешли html код
чего-нито
непереведенного
на lukashenko_must_die@hotmail.com
попробую
перевести.
Только с английского
:)
[18:17] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> DMITRY_HOMEL_BELARUS
РАССКАЖИТЕ
О СЕБЕ.....ГДЕ ВЫ
РАБОТАЕТЕ........КАКОЕ
У ВАС
ХОББИ???ГДЕ ВЫ
ЖИВЕТЕ???
[18:17] <OdeP> Olena: I can understand that you prefer the foreing
language version of Kidlink. However, from the
[18:18] <MODERATOR_Olga> Olenka_lviv - great! There is a page in
translations area where all not translated pages are listed, you can choose
any, translate and then send to Odd - right, Odd?
[18:18] <OdeP> idealistic point of view of Kidlink, I must say that the
mother language of the student is equally important.
[18:18] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus - please look my previous
remark 1
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[18:18] <OdeP> It is not about talking and writing a language, but also
about being able to receive and understand culture,history.
[18:19] <OdeP> Makes me remember a story about the Saami people in
North Norway. They have over 100 words for snow, while
[18:19] <OdeP> Norwegians have only about 10, I guess. One word may
tell exactly where on the high plane of north Norway this
[18:19] <OdeP> snow exists. Kill North Saami, and kill that knowledge.
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[18:19] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> MODERATOR_Olga, не
понял?
[18:20] <MODERATOR_Olga> Да,
многие
говорят об
украинской
версии
сайта. Она
нужна? Ваше
мнение? Безусловно,
было бы
неплохо
иметь и ее. Но
этим должен
кто-то
заниматься.
Есть ли
среди вас волонтеры,
которые бы
вызвались
координировать
процесс
переводов и
модерировать
конференции?
Ведь это
должен
кто-то
делать,
причем
исключительно
на
собственном
энтузиазме!
[18:20] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> Schetinina_teacher_Sumy,
работаю я
учащимся в 9-м
классе на физмате
в городе
Гомеле,
учусь
программированию
[18:20] <sumy_iatp> There is a good Ukrainian proverb: as much languages
you actually know as much times you could be called A MAN!
[18:20] <Olenka_lviv> <MODERATOR_Olga> the translations area is
on the kidlink site?
[18:20] <Alla_Kharkov> Odd,I like studing culture & language. I
also know French.
[18:20] <MODERATOR_Olga> Dmitry_Homel_Belarus - I'll send the link in a
second
[18:20] <Don> Everyone: I'm sorry that I must go, but I have a business
meeting to attend. I wish you the best of luck in implementing Kidlink!
[18:20] <OdeP> Olena: are you talking about Russian or Ukrainian? If
you are talking about pages to translate to Russian,
[18:21] <Kharkov_Marina> Я думаю,
что нашим
детям надо
развивать
знания
иностранных
языков, да и
нам тоже.
Работа в
англоязычных
проектах
будет для этого
стимулом.
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[18:21] <Schetinina_teacher_Sumy> ДА.НУ Я
ТОЖЕ УЧУСЬ В
9.......СУМСКОГО
ЛИЦЕЯ......
[18:21] <Olenka_lviv> Good luck, Odd :-)
[18:21] <OdeP> then I suggest that you talk with Raisa first kids2002
<kids2002@paco.net>
[18:21] <MODERATOR_Olga> LINK FOR TRANSLATORS:
http://www.kidlink.org/russian/general/dirinfo.html
[18:21] <OdeP> If you don't, then you can risk that someone else has
already done it or is working on the page you selected.
[18:22] <Lyuba_Lviv> I think we need such a chat and in future too.
Sorry I need to go. Bye
[18:22] <OdeP> If you want to translate into Ukrainian, you should
write to
[18:22] <Olenka_lviv> I can translate both into Russian & Ukrainian
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[18:22] <Dmitry_Homel_Belarus> Schetinina_teacher_Sumy, а
какой e-mail у
учащейся
Сумского лицея?
[18:22] <OdeP> Oksana at maxova@infocom.zp.ua for the same reason. It
might be an idea to cc: me.
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