------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Chat Log Recorded by Mark Hunnibell on IRC Channel KidLink starting at 2025 GMT on 28 Aug 92. The messages typed by Mark do not display the 'handle' but simply have the '>' at the beginning of the line. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Logfile kidchat2.txt opened at Fri Aug 28 16:25:14 1992 (ClausBerg) Actually my account is a bit 'dusty'; My access is only because of the KIDLINK-coordination-activities > well... that is OK... that is the reason I have this account... for kidlink (ClausBerg) ...Well, actually I got the Clienet from the remote server, as described, but... (ClausBerg) when unpacking it, there was a problem (something with: UCX or WIN)? > aha... this sounds familiar... which version of the client program did you get? > was it IRC170.com? (ClausBerg) All in all the installation stopped, leaving me without the login.com *** Change: WHEELER has joined this Channel (#kidlink) (ClausBerg) No, it was irc173a.com > hmm Hi dan! (WHEELER) Hi (ClausBerg) Hello dan, my good friend! (WHEELER) yes, it is nice to see you here, Claus (ClausBerg) What a great experience to try this, it's my first attempt... (WHEELER) And mark, too, I presume > but claus... you can telnet to this machine (bradenville)? > yes... it's me dan, Mark (ClausBerg) Yes mark and I was talking about the Client-program (WHEELER) I didn't really have and doubts, HoneyBell (WHEELER) I had trouble getting everything to work today. Not sure > Cluas has received the Client installation program but was telling me of toubles during installation (WHEELER) what the problem was, but it is working now. (ClausBerg) In my calculations, the 2100 GMT went to be 2000 danish time, but then the sun would have to turn from west to east. > Claus... do you have a liason or helper person who might assist you in installing the program?... (WHEELER) yes, I reinstalled irc173a.com (ClausBerg) So I opened the #KIDLINK channel at 1900 GMT, and wondered why there was such a silence > I think the problem is that the client program cannot find your UCX interface which it needs to have network access. > well... it must have been quiet for some time... that's why I belled you on my arrival (WHEELER) I got a choice of WIN or UCX. WIN is right for the system here. (ClausBerg) Yes maybe I'll have to talk with our VAX-network-folks about this. > Dan... maybe you can help him... I cannot because I'm just a hacker > Be careful Claus... this IRC is apparently something of a sore point for many network people (WHEELER) Maybe, but I had to get help myself. > They question its value and wether it is very efficient use of the resource (ClausBerg) Well, dan - talking private: how did the garage sale went, and how about the house? (WHEELER) last spring there were some system files that were protected-- (WHEELER) a system manager had to change things; a user couldn't do it (WHEELER) The garage sale went well (ClausBerg) ...'carefull' - maybe. But in SkoleKOM we've talked about setting it up as a point in the menu, but only for 'cleared persons' > so what do you make of all this video discussion? (WHEELER) the new room is finally finished. We are trying to figure out where to (WHEELER) put the furniture. > ok. Claus ... that sounds good... Show you have *some* control and you have an idea what you want to use it for and I doubt you'll have much trouble (WHEELER) I'm glad to encourage other to do video--but I don't want to do it myself > I heard that the folks in texas (some of the folks on TENET) caught some criticisim for installing thc lient anc chatting for Kids-92 (ClausBerg) Mark, I don't know if you know; Dan and I had a splendid time together in S.F. in April 1992. > Yes... I heard and as a matter of fact... I think Ernie Anderson contacted me as a result of meeting you two. (WHEELER) yes, we ate mountains of garlic > And as a result of THAT... > He arranged for an invitation for me to go to a joint education conference in China in November > I have doubts about whether I can go (ClausBerg) I'm getting a little bit 'high' on this chat. Haven't tried it before. It's a bit difficult to seperate the issues, even though we're only the three of us. (WHEELER) wow. I'd like to go to China, but its not very practical for me either > yes... Clause... that is one of the things... it is almost scary, but you get very used to carrying on two or three different conversations at once on the same channel. (ClausBerg) Yes, I saw the messages about the China-trip; thought it was mostly for 'americans'? > you just sort of type your message... send it... look up at the screen and see what is new and respond to it.. continuously! (WHEELER) it gets even crazier with more people > Yes... supposedly americans but I know odd was invited and I know the Chinese would like him to come (ClausBerg) Not so long ago, I received an invitation to submit 'papers' for an event in Israel next spring or summer. Did you get that one, dan? (WHEELER) when the kids were doing it, I couldn't keep up (WHEELER) I think I saw the Israel announcement (WHEELER) I just turned down an invitation to Canada to talk about art and telecom > I think in our case (the kidlink adult coordinator chats) we can suggest that people write long multi line messages encapsulating the full thought rather than a bunch of lines with ... at the end of each (ClausBerg) It's a bit b difficult for me to leave school to often. The headmaster is enjoying the activities, which puts focus on our school, but doesn't like me being off too much... (WHEELER) I'm going to one conference at the end of october and another one in november would make me miss too many classes > I recently met some folks who are putting in an IGC node in Beijing so I expect that we will be seeing some Kidlink activity from there in a few months (ClausBerg) I think, I read a message from you, mark, saying that 5 persons participated in the chat last week, who were the others? (WHEELER) i just tried the multiline option. I lose the first part of what I am writing until I press return--then it reappears > Bob Kelly from Iowa, Delwynne Petersen from Australia, Myself, a kid from Seattle, and Sally Laughon was trying really hard. (ClausBerg) IT WOULD BE GREAT WITH MORE cHINESE (uPS: cAPSLOCK!); they also make good food! > The big problem is language... I asked the professors about that and he said that the kids from about 6th grade up could probably hang in there, but the younger kids might need translations (WHEELER) Odd sent me a message about files being retrieved from Thailand. Included were the two IRCHELP files. It would be great if someone from Thailand shows up today. (ClausBerg) As I wrote you dan, I know of a danish class (10'th graders) going on a musical tourne in Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia this fall. I've suggested them to bring a couple of KIDSHOW-disk's with them, especially for Poland and Hungary (no contactpersons, > I asked them whether there is a common non-translated 'roman' depiction of the chinese language and they said yes so we may have some chinese submissions IN chinese! (WHEELER) I have a version of a Chinese word processor for ms-dos that is shareware. We could even let them write in characters. > If I go to Beijing, I will likely take about 50 KIDSHOW diskettes > dan... that is VERY interesting... does it use a keyboard or mouse (ClausBerg) I have a former teacher-colleauge, who isliving in Hong Kong for 2 years, will also submit her with a KIDSHOW-disk. > My sister is married to a swiss man who has some kidlink-age younger brothers so I will be sending him a diskette soon as well. (WHEELER) it uses the keyboard. you type something like chow3 and it shows a list of the characters pronounced "chow" in tone 3. Then you choose which one you want. > or dan... can of worms... we could let them send GIF pictures of their responses for storage in RESPONSE (WHEELER) GIFs would be fine! (ClausBerg) I FTP'ed for the newest KIDSHOW-files today. I got them to the local host, where they are now residing - couldn't get KERmit working. This was also my first attempt, like this chat is, too. > kind of neat too because I sort of think of chinese writying as art anyway > the file transfer from my mainframe to my PC for the recent version too probably 8 hours > took 8 hours that is (WHEELER) writing characters is a form of art! but I don't think that the everyday writing can be considered art. > well... I realise it is not for every day... but it still is, I think, a very > special form of communication (WHEELER) Claus: make sure that you set the file type to BINARY on both the host and on your PC > Dan... I do not know if this is universal... but my Kermit is pretty smart in that regard and automatically sets itself to the right format (BIN or ASC) (ClausBerg) As I said in the KIDBOOK-list, I sometimes feel that is is a bit difficult to keep up with all discussions; being a non-english-native-speaking person, dealing with a lot of others tasks too. KIDLINK is always after after midnight! There's a lot of things, (WHEELER) I have been reading about Japanese design, which also uses the character writing system (WHEELER) I'm making Shoji style shade for my new room > well... just as a timekeeper... it is now 2100 GMT... perhaps we will see new arrivals now (WHEELER) Claus: I think you do this just as fast as I do--I'm slowed down by my slow typing speed -> *wheeler* did you play with the /dcl command at all? (WHEELER) Yes, it just turned 2100. I do hope that others show up. > yes claus... you do very well *** Change: rokelly has joined this Channel (#kidlink) > and as we speak! (WHEELER) no, I haven't tried /dcl (WHEELER) Hi rokelly > well Dan... it is good if you get a piece of mail during IRC... you can read it without leaving the chat > Bob is that yo? (ClausBerg) It's a funny thing to get the help *transatlantic*... about KERMIT: I usually work on BBS-systems, when transferring files (using Y-Modem G Batch, etc.) Don't know KERMIT at all. But actually I tried to give commands to the host about 'binary'. Couldn't ca (rokelly) who is wheeler > bob... its Dan Wheeler (WHEELER) DanW is wheeler. Hi bob > Dan... you are coming through as 'WHEELER' not 'DanW' > renick *** Change: WHEELER is now known as DanW (ClausBerg) Hello Bob, this is Claus from denmark; which 'Bob' is you? (rokelly) Hi Dan and Mark, I'm getting re-oriented to this DECstation (DanW) sorry, I thought I had set a nick (rokelly) Hi Claus, I am Bob Kelly from Ames, Iowa USA -> *danw* Dan... try this command: /status (I think you will like) > so what is the topic of the day? (ClausBerg) Being new to this, I'm unsure: is my 'NICK' ClausBerg ? (DanW) Mark, yes that helps. What is the command to list the users on this channel > yes claus... can you do something for me? (DanW) claus: yes, you are ClausBerg on my screen (ClausBerg) Sure, mark, what can I do? > can you type /oper HoneyBell ... this will allow me to post a channel topic > you may get an error message... let me know (ClausBerg) It's giving me an error-message: 'Unknown command: OPER' *** Unknown Client command 'YES...'. For special commands try QUOTE. > yes... thats because you are in bradenville #kidlin* rokelly DanW HoneyBell @ClausBerg (rokelly) /add irclog (DanW) shall I try it, mark? > dan... we can't do it I don;t think /topic #kidlink Global Networking for Youth 10-15 *** HoneyBell changed the topic on channel #kidlink to Global Networking for Youth 10-15 > well I guess I was wrong! (ClausBerg) Would it be different, if I had chosen another host. I tried the one in Austria, but didn't succeed; neither with the Danish in Aalborg, mentioned in the IRCHELP1 (DanW) but it looks like your did change the topic, mark > yes claus... you had no success witth ircserver.univie.act.at 6668 ? (rokelly) I see a new topic on this end > yes... hmm. (rokelly) (DanW) bob: Your message come through with two identifiers (rokelly) Claus, what kind of educational setting are you a part of? (DanW) Like this: (rokelly) I see a new topic on this end > dan... I think he is overnicked! (rokelly) Dan: how do I make this thing just automatically enter my name at the start of a message line? (DanW) that's better than undernicked. (ClausBerg) Ok, talking KIDLINK and the creative challenge; haven't yet made a statement for the KIDPLAN-list, but I'm working on a new conference in our localPortaCOM conferencing system, which will be containing UUENCODE'd stuff from The KIDART Gallery, and a number > it automaticallt does it... you just typoe your message... we see your handle... you dont (rokelly) Ok nobody ever told me that before > no worries mate... we are really all just experimenting here (DanW) Bob: yes, that's fine! (ClausBerg) ...of necessary utilies, also in UUE-format. I feel, that Danish participant would rather get familiar with this, if they don't have to get it from the Listserv themselves, but will be able to pick it up in our local system. (rokelly) Claus I am interested in your UUENCODE'd procedure to translate soem of the KIDART files into something my Mac can see (DanW) None of us has much experience with IRC. I think mark is furthest along (rokelly) Dan, we haven't asked you before, what is your educational work setting? (DanW) I teach in the college of education at the university of cincinnati ACTION thinks dane may be right, but we can still learn more (DanW) I'm a psychologist by training (DanW) mark: where did the *** Action: come from? (ClausBerg) Bob, my 'educational work setting?' I teach in Danish public school. I have 5'th graders in math and 'orientation' , and the 7'th to 10'th graders in physics/chemistry. I think our teacher education in DK is much different from the American. > dan: try /me is trying out something new *** Action: DanW  (DanW) this is an action??? > you have to include a message > like this (rokelly) Claus: I teach 6th graders (ages 11-12) all subjects. Have you been on KIDLINK previously with your students?? *** Action: DanW oh, like this!! ACTION is trying to show dan how to use the /me command > yes... like thgat *** Action: DanW and I think I've got it! (rokelly) Dan, now that you've got it, can you tell me how you did it? (DanW) Ok, type: /me (ClausBerg) Bob, I've been active with my class, when they were 4'th, and as danish KIDLINK-coordinator I was participating with approx. 80 kids from 3 schools at our local Celebration in the Danish 'Eksperimentarium' back in May. > except that you sort of have to think of how it will be read... you have to make the message start with something that makes sense after your handle so it comes out like a sentence like... /me considers the alternatives *** Change: dp has joined this Channel (#kidlink) > try it bob! > delwynne is that you? (DanW) hi dp *** Action: rokelly  (ClausBerg) My attempt to use the 'me'-command didn't succeed. (dp) vO5MHi Yes it is Delwynne. I slept in! > yes... claus... you are in bradenville and there is much you cannout do :-( /whois dp *** dp is DELWYNNEX@vax1.viccol.edu.au () *** dp is on channels #kidlink *** On IRC via server Coombs.anu.edu.au ([mullian.ee.mu.oz.au] University of Melbourne, Aus) (DanW) welcome to the party, Delwynne (rokelly) Hi Delwynne, its Bob Kelly here, what time is it there? (dp) Thanks, Dan > you got it installed dp ! congrats! (dp) 7.25,Bob (dp) I didn't install it though. Called in the experts (ClausBerg) Hi Delwynne, nice to see you - it's Claus from Denmark. Here it's 23.30 (rokelly) dp, that's 7:25 Saturday Am right? (dp) Right Bob (DanW) I had to call the experts today, too. > well... thats OK delwynne... whatever it takes (dp) Is that you, Mark? > yes... it's me Mark Hunnibell... if you want to try something... try this command /whois nickname (dp) Bob. Did Sally make it? > or /whois * > Sally did not make it yet (ClausBerg) Bob, you asked about the UUE-format files. Did you get the BINSTART-file from the archieves at the Listserv? Else, dan is an expert! (DanW) I do consider this a party; it's my birthday today > Happy birthday dan... how old? (DanW) binstart is for ms-dos only (dp) Happy Birthday Dan. (rokelly) Happy B-Day Dan, as my son used to say when he was little, "How many candles??" (DanW) thanks. I've reached the half century mark > yikes...! I just turned 35 (aug 22) (dp) Join the club, Dan! (rokelly) Claus: I don't have the BINSTART file yet, I'll look into it. (DanW) I don't think 50 candles will fit on the cake. (rokelly) Dan, I'm one year behind you, and holding on! > They tried 35 on my cake and nearly burned the house down (DanW) Happy birthday to you too, Mark. Even if a few days late. (ClausBerg) warmest happy birthday greeting to old Dan from Claus ('Still stinking' - this is rather 'inside between dan and me. We went to a great garlic-restaurant in San Francisco, it was called: The Stinking Rose!) (DanW) My brother's birthday is also Aug 22 > thanks dan... i don't feel any different really (dp) Lots of Leos in the party (rokelly) Mark, when was the *BIG* day? > big day... AUg 22 *** Change: richn has joined this Channel (#kidlink) (DanW) hi rich (dp) Hi Rich > hi richn! (richn) hello folks - welcome from NZ > wow! we are rolling now! (richn) Dan I have an excited Jeremy sitting here (ClausBerg) Hello Richard - great to see you - it's Claus from Denmark. (DanW) good morning to you! (richn) Hi Claus - good to meet u - and Mark too - who elese is here (dp) Hi to Jeremy, Rich. I saw some of his great art. (DanW) Hi. Jeremy! (rokelly) Hi richn, Bob Kelly here from Ames, Iowa, USA...Welcome aboard! > Rich... we are going to have the kidlink clubs at school again this year and would like to do some of those on-on-one chats again sometime (DanW) Jeremy: Today is my birthday. (richn) yes thats great - Hi Delwynne must be early fpr you ? --------------- inadvertent break in log - sorry --------------- (richn) yes I need another cup too - its about 9:30 am here and I slept in (rokelly) Delwynne, did you get my e-mail yesterday? (dp) Yes Bob but I can't answer your questions. I'll investigate! (richn) Delwynne - you obviousluy got an IRC from somewhere - well done (rokelly) Rich: was is your educational work area in NZ? ---------------- another inadvertent break in the log ---------------- > having some problems here folks... sorry to keep coming and goin (DanW) kilroy left the channel. I'm not sure who he (she) is. (richn) rokelly - I'm not in education - sorry. I run a computer centre for Wellington City Council and have a part of it open for the community, including schools. It's an interest of mine to get schools online (ClausBerg) Bob, we started schoolyear in Denmark 3 weeks ago, Aug. 10'th. Next summer holidays will be about June 25'th 1993. ...It's surely going to be *a long walk* have you started, yet? (richn) My son J is a little disabled and so we have an interest in seeing computers used in schools (DanW) Yes, Mark. Hang in there > is anyone else logging this chat? (rokelly) to all: our school year begins on Monday, August 31 and ends June 3, 1992. I have been in teacher meetings and workshops all this week, and this IRC is reward for being a good boy all week!! (DanW) no, how do i start logging > good for you Bob.... have fun on Monday! > dan... you can /log chatlognameofyourchoice (richn) Jeremy wants me to tell you about this BIG bruise on his head. He was away orienteering with his class and fell down some stairs from a tower in a playfield > oooh... I'll bet that hurt! (richn) I have a question - what do you all call the holidays that you have between terms (ClausBerg) I couldn't count how many weeks your summer-break is, Bob, but it's surely much longer than our 7 weeks in Denmark (rokelly) rich: Don't be sorry for not being in education, looks like you are into public service another way via your city council work. > our holidays are not between terms usually (richn) we call them May and August holidays because thats when they are - in NZ vacation and holiday are synonymous (sp)terms (richn) OK what do you call the gap between terms ? (DanW) the name for the "between term" break depends on which one. (rokelly) Our kids call it vacation, teachers call it *relief*, and parents sometimes call it l-o-n-g! (richn) SPEAK SILLY DUMDUM > hmmm... we have summer vacation... we have winter or christmas vacation... and the infamous spring break... each of which (except for summer) seem to occur without regard for term dates (DanW) American schools have spring break (usually at the end of March) (richn) OOOPS THAT was from J while I got more coffee ! *** Signoff: dp (Bad link?) > yeah... sure it was Rich.... sure (richn) OK so "break/relief" is the term - well we're just starting a 'break' now (DanW) Hi J! (rokelly) rich: when do NZ kids return and start their school year? (ClausBerg) Being on the Northern hemisphere, we call our break in June-Aug. 'Summerholidays' ='sommerferie' (Danish). We have 1 week also in October, called 'fall-break' (?), formerly called the 'potato-holidays' = 'kartoffel- ferie'. tehn there's... (richn) Hi dan > Jeremy... did you have fun orienteering (except for the bump on the head)? (DanW) J: Do you remember helping me name my teddy bear? (richn) OK the year starts in Feb and has breaks in may and august. we also have a mid year break in july, (rokelly) Claus: Why the former term "potato-holidays", does it have something to do with a potato harvest? (richn) Yes I do *** Change: dp has joined this Channel (#kidlink) (DanW) welcome back, Delwynne (rokelly) Welcome back Delwynne,hang in there. (dp) Thanks Dan. I've been dumped a couple of times! (ClausBerg) ....the Christmas ='jule-ferie', Easter =' Paaske-ferie' and finally a small number of single-day holidays. I.e. for example The may 1'st. > these things happen but... after all... I don;t think we can complain at all (richn) The bump was not on my head but on my forehead. It still hurts (DanW) J: Raywynne Bear is doing very well (dp) What's this about a bump on a forehead. Is that you J? (richn) Aviator Bear and Croc say HI !! - Croc is a cuddly crocodile bought in Syndey - Australians seem to like cuddlying crocs - is that right dp ? > aviator bear? now i am interested. (dp) Sure J! How did you do your head a mischief? (DanW) J: Raywynne Bear is at my office, and I'm at home, so she can't say hello! (richn) dp - one of my staffers returned to melbourne to study education at the end of last year. She was a big helper in our art-i-fax programs, is it easy for her to get a dial-in account somewhere ? (richn) dp - yes playtime in a park while on a school outing !! (dp) Whgich Uni was she with, Rich? (richn) dp - H'mmm I have the details at work. I'll have to look it up (dp) Tell her to ring me at home or work and I'll give her some names,Rich (richn) Claus - I'm intrigued by the holiday names you have - sounds really fascinating (rokelly) Mark, did Sally Laughon say she would be joining in? (richn) dp - will do - her name is Kerryn Cooper > rich... just out of curiosity... is that account you set up for me on your system still active? (dp) Ric. How do you get a list of users of the internet? Bob wants to check on a Perth school. (rokelly) Claus: Where in Denmark are you, and what time is it there now? > Yes Bob... I thought she might be here... may be having problems but I have not received any "HELP ME' messages yet. (richn) mark- yes -use it anytime. I have a pair of lovebirds using simmilar accounts. He is in seattle , she in Tawa ! (moofster) Neat channel... your high schools have i-net connections? > lovebirds eh? /whois moofster *** moofster is moofster@world.std.com (Moofster -- A Happy Ephebophile) *** moofster is on channels #gif *** On IRC via server world.std.com ([192.74.137.5] The World @ Software Tool & Die) (dp) gD6vA (dp) Oops, my keyboard is playing up! > well moofster... we are part of a global networking effot (ClausBerg) About the 'Potatoe-holidays'. I don't think that the kids out in the country/farmer-land enjoyed this 'fall-holiday' so much. It was hard work, they had to deal with. Now a days, it's more rgular sparetime for the kids. (richn) dp - I have been working with gopher - your systems people will love it - it has a directory on internet users using netfind. I also have a contact at a WA council so I could ask him > many schools have internet access.... I am working with two middle schools > moofster... would you like more information? (dp) Great Rich (dp) Are you still there Bob? (rokelly) Rich: the school near Perth is called Christ Church Grammar School, a residential school for boys (rokelly) dp: I'm looking at ya! (richn) claus - seems your counbtry has a farming background too. We have a disaster right now as the South Island just got dumped with deeep snow. The sheep are freezing to death (DanW) Mark, moofster doesn't show up with /who #kidlink (ClausBerg) Bob, I'm living 15 km north of our Capital, Copenhagen, on the island of Zealand (not New Zealand!) in the Eastern part of the country. Where are you situated, Bob, I'm not so clever in 'American geography'? (dp) You had gone tooooooo quiet Bob. (rokelly) Claus: I grew up on a farm, so I can identify with much of that. (DanW) Can people hide? (richn) Here is (richn) Here is J in NEW Zealand > moofster is 'moofster@world.std.com' (dp) Do you have electricity for extended hours now Rich? > dan... not from me they can't (richn) No (rokelly) dp ***HI*** hope that comes through louder! What are you going to do during your break now that the gals are gone for a time? (rokelly) Claus: I am from Ames, Iowa which is smack dab in the middle of US of A. The city of Ames is in the middle of Iowa, so we\ (richn) dp - yes (that was J) power crisis is over - we had LOTS of rain and the lakes filled again. We all suspect it was political was electricorp wanted a price hike ! (dp) The gals are still with us for another 4 weeks. Then I'll head for the beach with my computer of course! > dan... I think I will send kidlink general to our moofster friend (ClausBerg) Bob, what's 'gals'? You know, I'm a Danish-man. (richn) Here is J again (rokelly) Claus, cont'd.....So we are in the heart of the heartland. This is primarily a agricultural area, and farming and agriculture is our (rokelly) claus......main industry here. (dp) J. I'm still trying to find out about this head! (rokelly) Claus...The message about gals was for DP who teaches in a Catholic Girls School, right Delwynne?? (dp) Where abouts in Windy Wellington are you J.? (dp) Right Bob (richn) It is on my forehead silly!! (dp) OK.Ok. I stand corrected! (dp) I came from Auckland, J. (richn) I am in tawa and it is not windy -> *danw* I just sent KIDLINK GENERAL to MOOFSTER... see what happens now;-) (richn) Ah - the rainy City !! (dp) How far is Tawa from the city of W? (ClausBerg) To Jeremy: hi from Claus, Denamrk. I'm the father of Ida, who has also submitted computer-art to the KIDART Gallery. Did you see the Norwegian magazine 'DataTID', which had a nice article with lots of full-coulored illustration from the KIDART. *** Change: richn is now known as Jem > I had a penpal in Wellington when I was about 8 years old /nick MarkH *** Change: honeybell is now known as MarkH (Jem) I have sen Ida's picture (rokelly) Hey, DP where is Australia are you located? (dp) What's this about being able to set up an account in another country? (dp) I'm in Melbourne, Bob Channel Nickname S User@Host Name #kidlin* dp H DELWYNNEX@vax1.viccol.edu.au (8 ) #kidlin* MarkH H GUILFORD@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU (0 ) #kidlin* Jem H RN_DEMO@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (5 ) #kidlin* rokelly H rokelly@iastate.edu (6 *Unknown*) #kidlin* DanW H WHEELER@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (7 ) #kidlin* ClausBerg H@ daemon@BRADENVILLE.ANDREW.CMU.EDU (6 vms2.uni-c.dk) (Jem) DP - WCC gives open access on KOSMOS, our public access machine You want me to mail details ? (rokelly) The account in another country is of interest to me too! Bob wants the details: rokelly@iastate.edu (dp) Yes, please. Rich (Jem) Jeremy is 9 years old > Rich... I don;'t think we ever heard the real story on what happened to you for the Big Days... (dp) How was Chritchurch Rich? Did it snow while you were there or after? > just some sort of mysterious disaster... (Jem) After -DanW- the /dcl command did not work for me (rokelly) Claus: Is is unusual to have snow that heavy in the south island, this time of year?? > snow? That seems strage to think of here... it is about 29 degrees C out here right now (ClausBerg) Jeremy, I was going to say, that you stay up late - that's not true, but here it's around midnight. (dp) I'm planning a SI trip next yera in term 4 so it had better not snow like that then! (Jem) Mark - I was in the US and became quite ill (hosp 3 times) so I was delayed. So I had a stand in handle it. He had trouble with behaviour and we found that our link can only handle 4 IRC's at once -> *Danw* Dan... can you messag me again? That was strange... I got -DanW- the /dcl command... (Jem) Claus - yes it 10 am here - we've just had pancakes for Breakfast and heaps of coffe for my head. I was thinking You must be up late (ClausBerg) Dear friends, I've been online for two hours now. It has been great fun. I'm signing of in a few minutes. -DanW- I'm trying to figure out more of the commands > four IRC's is plenty. I am going to make some general recommendations about how we do this for kids... (Jem) dp - yes SI is gREAT. The snow is not regular, which is why the farmers are in trouble with sheep, etc (rokelly) Here in Iowa today the temp is in the mid 70's F. -DanW- The command /dcl does not seem to work on this system -> *danw* yes... but how did you change to -DanW-? (Jem) OK Claus - LOVELY to chat with you is tomorrow saturday ofr friday ? (rokelly) Claus: It was good to chat with you, I'll look forward to chatting with you again soon. (dp) Great to chat with you Claus. Next Saturday? > hope to see you all next week! (DanW) are you about to leave, delwynne? (dp) No! (Jem) MarkH - we had a great chat for the 40 hour famine thing. I think small groups work the best. large class groups we have found caus eproblems as you get cross-the-class fights (DanW) Oh. I've been trying out some commands > yes... that was my observation (the cross class fights).... (dp) What did you try, Dan? (ClausBerg) It's saturday tomorrow here in denmark, Jeremy. I'm sure I should have given you the best greetings from my kids, if they were not sleeping right now. Ida is also 9 years old. You could sent her an email one day. Her account is: (DanW) Claus: Bye. Hope to see you next week. (rokelly) Claus, I'm not sure they gave your internet address right, I show..... vm2.uni-c.dk is there more? (DanW) I've tried /who #kidlink (dp) How many are online Dan? > try /names #kidlink also /whois * > there are six on right now (DanW) and i've tried /notice markh to send a private message (ClausBerg) ...Ida's address, same as mine: Claus_Berg@skole-kom.uni-c.dk > oh... that was /notice? I see... I use /msg (dp) That was pretty smart. (Jem) did I miss something ? *DanW* so now I'll try /msg > miss something? probaly not (dp) DP sent a message to Dan -> -danw- see the difference between this and... -> *danw* this? (dp) Dan, my student (very bright) was absolutely wrapped to "chat" to you the other day *DanW* Yes. (Jem) OK Claus - I'll get j to write. his accont is jem@otto.tosh.wcc.govt.nz -> *markh* this is a test (DanW) Yes, I was delighted to get the message back to her before she signed off. I'll write to her again soon. (dp) Would you be available for a short IRC with her next Tuesday? (ClausBerg) Ida is a very active letter-writer, so she'll maybe also send Jeremy a letter soon. (DanW) dp: maybe. let me check my calendar (Jem) About 3 weeks ago I took part in a workshop using a decision support system. It was basically IRC but limited to teh room we were in. This is much better - global decision making ! CLAUS - OK I'll look out for an increase in mail to and fro (dp) That would be great but if something better crops up we won't hold you to it! (DanW) dp: what time of day? and do you mean Monday night for me? /mirror markh testing this mirror out *MarkH* tuo rorrim siht gnitset (dp) Yes, Dan. At the same time as when you spoke to the teachers from the Philippines. (rokelly) Delwynne, Mark, Rich, Claus....I need to sign off for now. It's been fun, hopefully we can do this again next week..over and out. *** Signoff: Jem (Bad link?) > ok bob... takle care.... see you same time same station next week (dp) Bye Bob. I'll send you the info if I can get it. (DanW) bye, Bob. Hope to chat with you again soon. (ClausBerg) I'll maybe be available for a chat on tuesday at the same time, see you soon. Good night, goodmorning, good day, good evening - whereever you might be! *** Signoff: rokelly (Leaving) *** Signoff: ClausBerg (Leaving) > this is really nice... we have had some very diverse people on line! (dp) Mark It really is fantastic isn't it. (DanW) dp: yes, I'm free. I think you are 14 hours ahead of me. *** Change: richn has joined this Channel (#kidlink) (richn) sorry about that local stack dump - i typed too much (dp) Dan It was 10.30am here and 8.30pm there if I remember correctly. > yes... I will be putting this in the KIDLEADR archives I guess as KIDLEADR CHAT01 so people can see what it's all about > local stack dumo? (dp) I haven't done this with students but they would find it great too (DanW) dp: That sounds right. so you mean 8:30 PM monday night for me (dp) Yes Dan. You were having your after dinner coffee. > yes pd... but the problem with kids are that they seek the lowest lever right away > level, that is (DanW) and 10:30 tues morning for you. (dp) Yes. I guess they would. Small group with a given topic might work.Mark (DanW) that will be fine. Shall we use IRC? (richn) sorry stack dump - big fingers on small keyboard > yes dp... that's what I am hoping we can resolve some of thes issues and have some of the chats like the one you and Dan are setting up right now (dp) Yes. 10.30am Tues for us or perhaps we could start on the hour 8pm for you 10am for us. (DanW) Now it is time for me to go. I've got to change clothes to go out for dinner. > is the chat on Tues something publis or more prsonal? (dp) I have a class from 9.30 until 11.00 on a Tuesday morning if anyone had students then.Mark (DanW) We (my wife and I) are going to a fancy seafood restaurant. > ok... maybe I'll get my two girls (12 and 13) (richn) yummy !! (dp) Wow! Enjoy the birthday party Dan. Great to talk to you. (richn) OK do you want me toi get some locals onto it as well ? > That (8pm local) will be the night before school starts her (dp) Yes Please. We 'll call it #kidlink again? > yes... if you join and no one is here... just wait, OK? (richn) OK #kidlink it is (dp) We'll be there! (DanW) Thanks. I'll talk to you mon/tue. and I hope Mark & kids can join in > so... 10am Tue Oz time... 8 pm EDT US time, and 0000 GMT for everyone else (dp) Does anybody know what has happened to Sally L? (DanW) we'll meet on channel #kidlink > no... sorry on the sally question... I will check something right now (DanW) bye to everyone. This has been a fun birthday party for me! > bye dan! *** Signoff: DanW (Leaving) (richn) 0000GMT -> 1200 NZT - I try and join while I have my lunch (richn) By Dan have a gREAT party and Happy Birthday again > great rich... I should get going to... (dp) Great. My class will be beside themselves If that's possible (richn) OK its late for you guys - I'm sugffering from too much coffee ! > see you all then... it will be Suzannah and Melissa (richn) OK say hi to them from tawa !! (dp) I'm suffering from NOT enough! See you Mark. Thanks a lot > will do... good day all > or g'day *** Logfile closed at Fri Aug 28 18:25:06 1992